Our missionary edition of the book of mormon confidently included. Fairmormon faithful answers to criticisms of the lds church. This is the official facebook page for the ldsdiscussions. Im your host, sean mcdowell, professor of apologetics at talbot school of. Undeniable archaeological evidence of the book of mormon in north america duration.
New evidence for the book of mormon wait until smoot gets hold of this. The book sets a new standard in evangelical discussions of mormon beliefs. Bad book of mormon apologetics lds church is true blog. Mm community, im looking to do a podcast series for mormon stories on book of mormon historicity and dna. Faculty members from the byu religious education department discuss the writings and teachings of the book of mormon prophets in this 63part series. Apologetics gathers together fifteen essays on the role of apologetics in mormonism, each of which can be loosely sorted according to whether its author promotes or critiques the apologetic project. Book of mormon apologetics in the nineteenth century developed along essentially three lines. Fairmormon is a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing welldocumented answers to criticisms of lds doctrine, belief and practice.
Mormon matters, once a preeminent lds blog, has retired as an active enterprise no new posts past 2011, but its long and vigorous history of discussions exploring mormon culture and events is provided here for your edification. Apologetics, published by greg kofford books, comes into play. Our goal is to explore the various topics of mormonism from a historical perspective using mostly lds sources. Looking for an apologist to discuss book of mormon for. A case for the book of mormon archives radio free mormon. In case fairfarms decide not participate, do any of you know anyone who is a believer in book of mormon. Supporters of the book of mormon claim it uses chiasmusa figure of speech utilizing inverted parallelismand claim it is evidence to support the books ancient origin. This occurred after his resurrection from the dead in jerusalem. May 16, 2014 70 videos play all discussions on the book of mormon byu religious education miracles at the crucifixion of christ duration. Bad apologetics rfm gives a workshop in identifying and dismantling bad apologetics, using the adamgod theory as a classic example. The word apologist is often seen by members who are just learning about the issues found on mormonthink. Southerton looked to mormon apologetics works for answers when he was confronted with this dilemma as a church member. Posts dedicated to events or current trends in mainstream media dealing with topics about the lds church and other general announcements of interest.
The resulting volume reads unevenly, as many anthologies dobut here, that patchiness is amplified by the. Foundation for ancient research and mormon studies byuorg. Lds apologists have a pretty bad reputation among nonlds, and its not just a good vs evil thing. Sep 17, 2017 this is where the new volume perspectives on mormon theology. In the introduction of the book of mormon, smith states that it is the record of gods dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the americas, which also contains the fullness of the everlasting. The book of mormon claims to be an additional revelation to jesus christ. Then there are what i would call good book of mormon apologetics. It also steps into the middle of a raging debate about the books historical claims. Birch argues that it should be a part of mormon studies, as long as apologetic authors concede that their arguments are objective and subject to academic debate.
Find out about its teachings of men becoming gods, temples, the book of mormon, and joseph smith who claimed to have seen god the father. Please stay on topic all off topic posts will be moveddeleted. Apparently the neo mormon apologetics post farms is not all that impressive even if they are attempting to make it more pastoral. Consiglieri, the numerological book of mormon mormon. Sep 03, 2017 the discussions focus primarily on the importance of apologetics, its pros and cons, and whether we should be doing apologetics. At mormon discussions we look to help you navigate mormonism. Contemporary book of mormon apologetics really began with two lengthy series of articles from 1950 to 1952 by nibley on the book of mormon, published in 1952 as the book lehi in the desert and the world of the jaredites. Millions regard it as a book of scripture, another testament of christ, produced in the new world by the descendants of a small party of israelite immigrants who are among the ancestors of the american indians. An account written by the hand of mormon upon plates taken from the plates of nephi, who claimed that it had been. Its a bold and what seems a big change for our friend. Devan jensen those who want to learn about the art and practice of defending the faithknown classically as apologeticswill enjoy reading perspectives on mormon theology. We cover joseph smith, the book of mormon, the book of abraham, all the way to present day.
How to answer jehovahs witnesses and mormons frank chacon, jim burnham on. The book of mormon is a sacred text of the latter day saint movement, which adherents. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page. This is where the new volume perspectives on mormon theology. Many people accuse lds apologists of lying for the lord. The foundation for ancient research and mormon studies functions as a research and publication center that focuses on scholarly analysis of the book of mormon, the book of abraham, the old testament, the new testament, early christian history, and ancient temples. The material on this site has been written by members of the lds church that have left, and incorporates both critical and apologetic standpoints on each topic.
The following is a blog post originally posted on the churchistrue blog in 2016 following tad callisters byu devotional talk titled the book of mormon manmade or godgiven. Roberts was the first mormon apologist, president of the first quorum of. Join us for this 20,000 foot view of mormon apologetics. He the angel moroni said there was a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the. Lowered expectations apologetics lds church is true blog. Then quoting the book of mormon itself, callister provides the answer. Apologetics, apologist, christianity, evangelism, faith, life after death, methodology, podcast april, 2020 podcast for the latest discussion on covid19 and conversations on sharing the gospel with people view post.
Another early work of smith is the lectures on faith 183435. A year later in lds general conference, he gave this same presentation in shortened form. When the interpreter, fairmormon, or book of mormon central focuses on these things, im always a big fan. Page 1 of 2 34 posts go to page 1, 2 next previous topic next topic. Challenging anti mormon apologetics may 9, 2019 those that castigate joseph smith, gods prophet of the restoration of the gospel of jesus christ for what they allege are his failed prophecies must consider the material in the following and respond appropriately. Challenging antimormon apologetics may 9, 2019 those that castigate joseph smith, gods prophet of the restoration of the gospel of jesus christ for what they allege are his failed prophecies must consider the material in the following and respond appropriately. Doctrine and covenants, pearl of great price, and to a certain extend the king james version of the bible. The articles include the issues of women in apologetics, whether we should instead focus on mormon scholarly studies, the differences between good and bad apologetics, boundary maintenance, and where we should go in. The book of mormon also makes a strong point for gods spiritual and eternal unity see alma 11. I do testify that the uncut sheets of the complete first edition of the book of mormon have been reproduced in its original unchanged condition. This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the book of mormon article.
The account, known as the book of mormon, tells the story of two israelite. These plates were supposedly written 1,400 years ago and detailed the history of the jewish nephites from 600 b. Sometime around 183435 in kirtland, ohio, revelation book 2 was used for the preparation of the 1835 doctrine and covenants, and all but eight items in the manuscript book were published in that 1835 volume. Here is what the angel moroni supposedly told smith.
Ronald nash, reformed theological seminary orlando and southern baptist theological seminary louisville. The crowning event in the book of mormon is the ministry of jesus christ among the nephite people. Nibleys method was essentially a comparative approach, ransacking ancient literature far and wide for parallels to the book of mormon. Book of mormon apologetics and scholarship deseret news. Joseph probably wasnt speaking as a prophet when he said that. He talks about lds apologetics how lds members defend the book of abraham. Donate today to a good cause while supporting latter day saints like you. Tracing ancient threads in the book of moses, september 1819.
Mormonism, also known as the church of jesus christ of latterday saints, claims to be the restoration of the true gospel and a revelation of the true god. I have had an interest in things mormon since my cousin converted to that faith after marrying a mormon man. Donate to fairmormon register for the fairmormon conference, august 57. These insider views of the book of mormons origins were. The ark took noah and his family to the old world at the time of the flood. Sharing the good news with mormons think biblically biola. Adam and eve and their posterity through noah lived in missouri andor near abouts in america.
They win points with the uninformed, but they hurt us more in the long run. This is not a forum for general discussion of the articles subject. Apologetics, a compilation of essays edited by blair g. These are some major issues that i think need to be discussed. The dialogue is interesting because it was a prearranged debate. Jun, 2019 there are bad book of mormon apologetics.
Van dyke and loyd ericson, both of utah valley university, apologetics is a compilation of essays that draws from the wide spectrum of latterday saint positions on apologetics. A popular fairmormon trope is that the plates are an example of a onetime anachronism that has since been vindicated. May 16, 2014 70 videos play all discussions on the book of mormon byu religious education dinosaurs and the bible debunking the 7 myths that deny biblical truth series duration. In the words of latterday saints president wilford c. Discussions on the new testament acts to revelation. In the second quote, he is referring to the book \by his own hand upon papyrus\ by charles larson, which most mormons would consider an \anti mormon \ book. He published this as a book recently, and i see discussion about this quite regularly in social media lately, so its a. Apr 10, 2020 the crowning event in the book of mormon is the ministry of jesus christ among the nephite people. Jesus established his church in the americas by appointing apostles and prophets just as he had in israel.
The first dissertations on mormons, published in the 1900s, had a naturalistic style that approached mormon history from economic, psychological, and philosophical theories. The discussions focus primarily on the importance of apologetics, its pros and cons, and whether we should be doing apologetics. Mormon scholars are divided on whether or not apologetics should be considered part of mormon studies. The 10 most important things you can say to a mormon by ron rhodes. Covers the mormon view of the bible, the book of mormon origins. Fairmormon is a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing welldocumented answers to criticisms of the doctrine, practice, and history of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. Mormon neoapologetics is not working mormon discussions. We cover joseph smith, the book of mormon, the book. Furthermore, no attempt is made to discuss how apologetics has. Mormon apologetics have proposed multiple theories tying book of mormon places to modern. Ive approached mike ash to participate, and he has politely declined im waiting to hear back on his reasons. The book of mormon is one of four books accepted and promoted by the church of jesus christ of latterday saints lds the mormon church as scripture. An overview of mormon apologetics and neo apologetics mormon stories october 12, 2017 apologetics, church history, joseph smith 32 comments.
Stresses the importance of the trinity, salvation by grace not works, and more. It is also accepted as scripture by the reorganized church of jesus christ of latter day saints and dozens of other lds splinter sects note 1 the other books considered to be scripture by the lds church are. Lds discussions website thank you for visiting lds discussions. It was first published in march 1830 by joseph smith as the book of mormon. While their position within mormon studies is debated, mormon apologetics have a tradition dating back to parley p. Here is the isaianic section from the king james version callister uses. Adam god theory apologetics brigham young radio free mormon rfm radio free mormon. Before i get flamed i would like to point out three of the more glaring anachronistic errors. Each of the halfhour episodes covers several chapters from the book of mormon. The book of mormon stands as the keystone of the lds faith. Nothing is known about the dna of book of mormon peoples, and even if their genetic.
It used to feature a good deal of neoapologetic thinking from bloggers such as kaimi wegner, dane laverty, dave banack, and quite a. The book of mormon is a sacred text of the latter day saint movement, which adherents believe contains writings of ancient prophets who lived on the american continent from approximately 2200 bc to ad 421. Alma 5 and the book of mormons plagiarism of the new testament. Many who have engaged in neo apologetics, myself included, end up here on the ex mormon forum. Fair mormon is an organization dedicated to apologetics and answering.
I wonder if consig was a bit shy of advertising this episode here. Apologetics press the book of mormon and the ancient evidence. Apologists write defensively, and view their polemical. Lets talk about the golden, brass and other metal plates as described by joseph smith and the book of mormon. The following affiliates have contributed to book of mormon central by providing. A summary of the biggest problems with lds church history, and why we feel that mormon apologetics do not solve them. Three difficult questions for mormons catholic answers. I do believe in the book of mormon, the doctrine and covenants, and the pearl of. An immediate response from many of them is that it is a word with negative connotationsthat people are apologizing for the church. The idea of loyd erickson that we cant use secular knowledge and means to test religion is utterly ridiculous, and the commenters ideas are spot on about the weakness of the so. Once they gave me a mormon book designed to introduce the neophyte to their basic beliefs.
Smith once called the book of mormon the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion smith, 1902, 4. Over the last 15 years or so, my cousin, her husband, and i have had discussions periodically. The book of mormon claims to be a translation of ancient writing on gold plates. This is typically used to further the narrative that the list of anachronisms in the book of mormon is growing. According to those who hold the doctrinal purse strings, the people mentioned in the book of mormon numbered in the millions. Apologetics book of mormon doubt faith crisis lds mormon mormon apologetics mormon matters neoapologetics 804805. In addition, the very content of the book of mormon makes it impossible to accept it as divine revelation. The discussion has centered on the field of population genetics and. This is an absolute distortion of the text that can not be sustained. Radio free mormon is joined by bill reel for this indepth discussion of elder tad callisters recent video, a case for the book of mormon. For topics and discussions concerning lds doctrine, history, geography, etc. Nibleys method was essentially a comparative approach, ransacking ancient literature far and wide for parallels to the.
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